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Scriptural - Post Tribulation Beliefs.

Straight answers to specific questions from
Scripture about the future Post Tribulation Rapture.
[We recommend you see our articles,

‘Explanations and Words in Study of End Times’.
]

A friend leading a Bible study group made a comment regarding her ‘Post-Tribulation’ understanding of the future, which matches our beliefs. Immediately several in the group questioned the statement made, giving their own perspectives. Another friend after a brief reading of this web site, asked, “what are your Scriptural reasons for what you say?” These friends are reasonable, godly people. So a humble, clearly presented, but not too long and ‘involved’ reply, is our duty. Our desire is to be a blessing as well as giving thoughtful, logical reasons for our beliefs, with prayerful reliance on God.
Your responsibility is then to check and examine these carefully for yourself.
[These are in addition to the article -
Comparing Pre & Post-Tribulation Beliefs.]

We are presuming that readers will have some knowledge of the main End-time events that we refer to very briefly, without explanation of their full meaning in this article.

Such as:

  • There will be a "Time of Rebellion" and many serious End Time disasters and ‘signs’.

  • There will be two world leaders*, the False-messiah and his False Prophet.

  • His Covenant with the "many" nations is to give him total World Control for 7 years.

  • But his treaty with Israel will be: to permit them to be separate - i.e. not under his control.

  • That period of world control will change after 3.5years bringing in 'The Great Tribulation’.

  • In mercy God will make each day shorter as a result of horrific world earthquakes.

  • Finally their * destruction will be part of a shorter time of ‘bowls of wrath’ - plus their army.

  • Through all this Israel will be a centre of world attention, because of 2 ‘Witnesses’.

  • Yeshua Jesus warned of times of persecution and the need for Believers to ‘watch’.

  • Finally Yeshua/ Jesus will return to Earth with all His resurrected Family and Angels.

  • This will be the only ‘Rapture’, which is ‘Resurrection Day’ for all Believers only.

  • This means Believers will have resurrection bodies like Yeshua after His Resurrection.

  • He will commence His reign on a renewed Earth, as at Creation, for 1000 years.

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WE HOLD TWO MAIN AREAS OF DIFFERENCE FROM OTHER TEACHINGS, ON END TIMES,
[We accept that there are many other ‘smaller’ variations between Christians.
However we believe strongly in the right of each Believer to answer to their own conscience
before God, according to the Word of God and in obedience to His Holy Spirit.]

A.
WE BELIEVE MESSIAH WILL COME ‘POST’/AFTER THE TRIBULATION.
(Also we believe it will be after the time of God’s wrath.)
Understanding the timing of the ‘Rapture’ for ALL Believers at the One Coming of Jesus.

B.
ISRAEL WILL BE SAVED, BLESSED AND A BLESSING BEFORE THE ‘RAPTURE’.

The role and experiences of Israel before and during the ‘End Time Tribulation.’
For us these are closely related issues.
We will use Scriptures mainly, as proofs, but try to be brief, as well as clear.
We urge you to use these as guidelines to your own study.

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A. ‘POST TRIBULATION RAPTURE’ = RESURRECTION AFTER TRIBULATION.

Why do you believe Christians will not be raptured before the Tribulation?

1. First reason: for Believers there will be ONE Rapture/Resurrection DAY only.

Revelation 20: 6,Blessed and holy are those who have part in the First Resurrection.
(The second death has no power over them), but they will be priests of God and of Messiah and will reign with Him for 1000 years.”

We believe there is no ‘Rapture’ without a resurrection body, which all Believers will get instantaneously on The Day of Jesus’ final and one and only ‘Second Coming’.
How else could we meet Yeshua/ Jesus? How could we rise into ‘the air’?
It will be at ‘the First Resurrection’, but note, only for Believers, from all time, including O.T. saints.

Hebrews 9:28,So Messiah was sacrificed once, to take away the sins of many people: and He will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him.
Messiah’s First Coming was to die to win our Salvation; the Second Coming will be to finally complete our Salvation in absolute fullness of a rapturous experience, in resurrection life!
This is how we will be able to enjoy the 1000-year reign of Jesus.

John 11:23, Yeshua/ Jesus said to her,” [Martha whose brother had died 4 days before],’Your brother will rise again.’ Martha answered, ‘I know he will rise again in the resurrection at the Last Day.”
Three times in John 6, Yeshua/ Jesus says,I will raise him up, [everyone who believes in Him] at the last Day.There are many references to That Day’, which clearly is the first and only resurrection Day for Believers.

Revelation 20: 6,
Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death [for unbelievers] has no power over them…”
This needs to be understood carefully. All Believers of all time by faith in their Saviour will be in the ‘First Resurrection’. Some people have thought it is only those who have been 'beheaded’ in the Tribulation. Sadly -Christians are so good at dividing things where there is no division!
We need to note the words about those who’s names are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life”.
If you look at all the references for this you know that this is for ALL faithful followers of the Lamb of God throughout history.

Matthew 24:42, Therefore keep watch because you do not know on what [one special] DAY your LORD will come.”
Surely if there were two parts of the ‘Second Coming’, it would be more honest for those who hold this theory to talk about a second and third Coming, rather than dividing the Bible on an assumption of “a coming for the Church and another coming with the Church”? Instead there will be one ‘Day’, when all Believers will be “caught up together… to meet the Lord in the air.” There are many more reasonings and explanations in other web-sites, [see ‘More Links’], but we offer our beliefs in a simplified way, of a One Resurrection/Rapture Day for all Believers in Yeshua/ Jesus as being one special event, on one special Day. Our ‘Wedding Day’! See Ps. 45!
We trust you will be there with us! It will only be for Believers in Yeshua/ Jesus/ Isa. Rev. 19: 1-16.

Conclusion: There are not ‘two parts’ of the Second Coming at different times.

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2. Second Reason for a ‘post-Tribulation’ belief is the use of the words about the Last Trumpet’.
There are numerous references to this, but one that actually links the last trumpet’ with the Coming of Yeshua/Jesus is Matthew 24:31. He will send His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His Elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.”

1 Corinthians 15: 51 & 52, We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed –in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last Trumpet. For the Trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable and we will be changed.”
This explains our emphasis on one resurrection, rapture Day for all Believers.

1 Thessalonians 4:16, For the LORD Himself will come down from Heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the Trumpet call of God, and the dead in Messiah will be raised first.”
This means the Rapture/ Resurrection Day will be for all Believers after the Tribulation - and at the end also, of the severe judgements, represented by the ‘Bowls of wrath’. This will be when the Last Trumpet-call sounds - at the actual Coming of Messiah Yeshua/Jesus! A set of spectacular events and noise – enough to ‘raise the dead’, as has been said! Surely a fitting climax to the end of evil and the greatest future event, the return to Earth of our Saviour, Who won our salvation here on Earth! A small comparison or picture of this could be the dramatic opening and closing celebrations at the Olympic games. [See article on
Messiah Jesus is Coming Again.’]

Conclusion: The Last Trumpet heralds the actual Coming - the Believer’s Rapture and Messiah’s arrival on One Special Day.

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3. Third reason for expecting a ‘One Coming’, Post Tribulation event: Yeshua’s two statements reported by Matthew in chapter 24, about the ‘signs’ that will happen.
Yeshua/ Jesus believed His Return would be a 'post-tribulation' glorious event!
There will be clear ‘signs’ of Yeshua’s Coming and the ‘End of the Age’. Those who say His Coming is ‘immanent’ – with no prior indications by changes in the world scene, seem to deny the actual words of Yeshua. He spoke to His own Disciples about a whole series of event such as wars, plagues, earthquakes, false prophets and false messiahs and increased wickedness, and finally, great events in the skies happening first. We give them here as in the Jewish N.T.
Matthew 24: 3 When He was sitting on the Mount of Olives the Disciples came to Him privately. ‘Tell us’, they said… ‘What will be the sign that You are coming and that this age is ending?’
Yeshua replied, ‘Watch out! Don’t let anyone fool you! For many will come in My Name, saying, “I am the Messiah!” And they will lead many astray. You will hear the noise of wars nearby and the news of wars far off; see to it that you don’t become frightened. Such things must happen but the End is yet to come. For peoples will fight each other, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various parts of the world; all this is but the beginning of the ‘birth pains’. At that time you, [Believers in Yeshua/ Jesus/ Isa] will be arrested and handed over to be punished and put to death, and all peoples will hate you, because of ME
. Many false prophets will appear and fool many people.”
We cannot doubt Yeshua’s actual words. [And yet many Modern preachers /’prophets’ claim and teach that “we Believers will be raptured before this” clearly foretold time of persecution?]

Verse 12,Many people’s love will grow cold because of increased wickedness,He said. ”But whoever holds out to the End will be delivered. And this Good News about the Kingdom will be made known, throughout the whole world as a witness… It is THEN THAT THE END will come.”
Yeshua/ Jesus then recounts some more specific developments and warnings that you can read down to verse 28. [Note these disasters, and the causes of persecution especially, are all enlarged on in the Book of Revelation - so there is a lot of information to warn Believers.]

But then Jesus’ gives the first specific statement in verse 29.“But immediately following the trouble (distress) of those times, the sun will grow dark, the moon will stop shining, the stars will fall from the sky and the powers in heaven will be shaken. Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, all the tribes of the Earth will mourn and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with tremendous power and glory.” [JNT]
One notes that all the web-sites and books by pre-tribulationists still spend time outlining all these events, even when they do not see them as relevant to the Lord’s Coming, because they say Believers will not be here! It seems we will see these signs.
Certainly, we do not know when Yeshua is coming, but it is only the unbelievers who will be caught out, just as a thief - who sends no messages to say when he is coming!
But we are of the Day” and can be watching for the clearly listed signs Yeshua gave.

In verse 30, again, for the second time, Yeshua gave a specific time in the words,Immediately after the distress of those days…”
This is after the precise explanations of the persecution as well as all the Tribulation events to happen before His Coming.

Verse 21,“There will be great distress unequalled from the beginning of the world until now – and never to be equalled again.”
When our LORD says His Coming will be after the ‘Tribulation’, He was warning us in truth and love. How sad if we don’t take His warnings. God always warned His people of coming times of trouble.

Matthew 24:15 shows that Yeshua also upheld the prophets who wrote of End times of troubles, When you see… the abomination that causes desolation spoken through the Prophet Daniel… flee to the mountains.”
Yes this was to His Jewish disciples, but also they, as we are His followers.


He also refers to Isaiah’s words.
Isaiah 13: 9-13 "See the Day of the LORD is coming –
a cruel day with wrath and fierce anger - to make the land [world] desolate…
man scarcer than pure gold…”

This is, for careful readers of God’s Word, a place to see that our Lord
endorsed even the O.T. Prophet's grave warnings, by His words in:

Matthew 24: 22, If those days had not been cut short, no-one would survive…

We conclude that there will be 'Signs' before His Return, as Messiah plainly said.
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4. Fourth Reason for expecting a Post-tribulation Coming of Messiah.
There are other clear warnings and signs given by the Apostles.
In 2 Thessalonians 2:3 Paul said,that Day will not come, until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed.”  
In 2 Peter 3: 3,
Peter wrote: First of all you must understand that in the last days, scoffers will come…”
Incidentally, 3 times in this chapter he mentions a Day’.
a) "The Day of judgement and destruction of ungodly men,” verse 7.
b) The Day of the Lord will come like a thief,”
verse10.
c) As you look forward to the Day of God and speed it's coming,”
verse 12.

The fact is, that the Day of resurrection joy for the Believers is also emphasised in some places, (as here in 2 Peter and in Revelation), as a Day of judgement and punishment for the leaders of the Tribulation time and all their supporters at the Battle of Ha Megiddo. Although this is an important aspect, we are not concentrating on it.

However in its way, this also fits with the concept of a Post-tribulation Coming.
Revelation 13: 8 spells out the facts of the Tribulation experience. “Everyone living on Earth will worship [the Beasts stature] except those whose names are written in the Book of Life belonging to the Lamb slaughtered before the world was founded…
This is when God’s holy People must persevere and trust.”
[JNT]
This is why Believers rejoice at the destruction of the evil leaders, having suffered so much under their reign.

In Rev. 19: 2. God’s judgements are true and just. He has judged the great whore who corrupted the world… He has taken vengeance on her who has the blood of His servants on her hands.”
Also described in Revelation 19: 11 –15: [Yeshua] “the Rider of the white horse, Who's Name is Faithful and True”, Who strikes down the nations that gather against Him and His People. So it goes on to say this, in this chapter of Revelation 19, “the Beast was captured and with him the false prophet… the two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulphur.” [Vs 20.]
It seems that many Gentile Christians will be honoured (some with martyrdom) in the Tribulation, or by real suffering, but then later be protected on Earth, during the ‘Bowls of wrath judgements’. Therefore the just punishment of those who torment them will come as the Christians are raptured and return to Earth in the glorious, victory procession of the Second Coming of King Yeshua/ Jesus Messiah to Earth!
Rev. David Pawson explains this very well in his book, ‘When Jesus Returns” [Hodder & Stoughton - Publishers.]

Our conclusion then is that the Rapture is at the very ‘End of the Age’.

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There are other Scriptures that we believe demonstrate that during the Tribulation, God will make a safe place for Israel on Earth, to show His glory and power even in a time of testing for the rest of the world. We deal with this question later, but God sheltered Israel in Egypt for 7 of the 10 plagues. See Exodus 8:22 & 23.

Isaiah 60: 1 is a clear example - speaking specifically to Israel –“Arise, shine, for YOUR Light has come, and the glory of the LORD rises upon YOU. [But] see darkness covers the Earth and thick darkness is over the peoples
This is the nations during the Tribulation – not in the Millennium, as some people say.

Our conclusion: all Believers (including Jewish Believers) are present here, right up to the Second Coming.

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5. Fifth Reason for a Post-tribulation Rapture: God will NOT DIVIDE HIS Body, by taking the Church first and leaving a ‘saved Israel’ here, for another ‘Coming’ later!

1 Thessalonians 4:14 & 18 includes the words –  We believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in Him… we who are still alive at the Coming of the Lord… For the Lord Himself will come down from Heaven and the dead in Messiah will rise first. After that we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. So we will be with the Lord, forever.”
( Where is Yeshua/ Jesus coming to? Yes! To this Earth!)
Almost every part of the New Testament – which was either said or written to both Jews and non-Jews - refers somewhere to the Coming/Return of Jesus and to ‘The End of the Age’. There was one message for all Believers about the Hope of Messiah’s Return! We feel that where the words ‘saints’ or ‘elect’ are used it means Jews and Gentile Believers, as in at least 17 times throughout both parts of Scripture.
So, God will not take one part of His ‘Body’/Church, (which does include Messianic Believers), to Heaven, before the other ‘part’ that have suddenly become Believers when they see Yeshua at the so-called ‘first part Coming’. This means - and they say, (new) Messianic Believers are left behind at the ‘Pre-tribulation rapture’, and then will win a group of people who have taken the Beast's mark, and called ‘tribulation saints’. This means that they divide God’s people, into three parts - the Church, (in Heaven), Jews; and their converts - called ‘tribulation saints’, on Earth.
Surely this cannot be true? God only has one Body/Bride/ Olive Tree…
In addition people who have knowingly taken the (worship) mark will NOT want or be able to change after that, we believe.
Paul emphasises the ONENESS of Messianic Jews and Gentile Christians in Ephesians 2.

God made “one new man out of the two”.
One of the greatest blessings of the full Salvation Yeshua won by His life,
death and resurrection was to make ALL Believers, ONE!


Ephesians 2 has famous verses 13 –16. But now you [Gentiles] who were once far off have been brought near through the shedding of Messiah’s blood. For He Himself is our Shalom – He has made us both one and has broken down the wall, [Hb. M’chitzah] which divided us… He did this in order to reconcile to God, both, in a single Body, by being executed on a stake as a criminal and thus ‘killing’ in Himself that enmity/division… You are fellow-citizens with God’s people and members of God’s Family.”
These verses quoted [from JNT] are true for all time, and are surely true regarding the greatest climax of all history – the Return of Yeshua to Earth. We believe the ONENESS of Yeshua’s ‘Bride’ will be seen then, though partly before, as well!

Conclusion: ALL Believers will be Raptured to meet Jesus as ONE Bride/Body.

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This is the end of section 'A' that is a brief Scripture-based summary as we said.
You are welcome to write to us, with your questions after you have looked at other articles and the good web sites we have referred you to.
[See
worldview3.50webs.com/2raptureindex.html]

If you have felt that you are the only person who was not sure about the ‘Pre-tribulation Theory’ – please be encouraged -there are many more godly people the same as you! As has been said, by some Christians, “I would rather be prepared to face suffering and like Corrie Tem Boom said, learn Scriptures by heart now; than be disappointed if I had to face a choice of dying or giving up my Faith, without any preparation.” This is why we have prepared these studies and articles for you. May God keep us all humble and faithful!


B.
ISRAEL’S ROLE AND EXPERIENCES DURING END TIMES. *
(This is especially at Yeshua's Coming after the False Messiah’s Reign and the time of Tribulation.)

1. Will the Jews become Believers in Yeshua when they see Him at His Coming?

Israel will become Believers in Yeshua * ~ but NOT when they see Him at His coming.
In the letter called ‘Hebrews’ written specifically for Jewish people there is a climax to its message in chapter 11, which is very important to this topic of Salvation by Faith!
Now faith is being sure of what we hoped for and certain about what we do not see… By faith Abel… By faith Enoch… and Noah, and Abraham, and Sarah, and Jacob, and Joseph, and Moses… These were all commended for THEIR FAITH!”

It seems that God will be greatly glorified one day before Yeshua returns by the acceptance of Yeshua by all the End time Jews, alive at that time. (Romans 10 & 11 assures us of this.)
However they can only be ‘saved’ by FAITH - NOT BY SEEING JESUS.
Without FAITH it is impossible to please God…”

The ‘Pre-tribulation rapture theory
says that the Jews (as a whole) will all become Believers when they see Yeshua when He comes in the so called, ‘first part’ of the Second Coming for the Church. BUT ~ if the Jews come to salvation in Yeshua by seeing Him, this denies the whole message of the Bible.
Even Abraham gained his acceptance with God, (righteousness) by trusting – taking God at His word. So did all the other famous characters in the list of people, (taken from the Tanakh record), which are listed in Hebrews chapter 11.
Remember? It says in verse 29, These all were commended for their trust.”
Any other teaching denies the strong principles of the Scripture and wrongly promotes the division of Believers!Without trusting it is impossible to be well pleasing/acceptable to God.” [JNT] Do you agree with that?

Our conclusion: all people can only be in God’s true family by trust, not sight.

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2. It seems God will cause all the ‘End Time’ Jews to accept Yeshua as Saviour and Messiah before His Return! He will give them new hearts and a Covenant of love. Ezekiel 36.

Romans 11:26
, And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written the Deliverer will come from Zion; He will turn godlessness away from Jacob, and this will be My Covenant with them when I take away their sins.”
The whole subject of Israel’s acceptance of their Messiah is a very big study, addressed in other articles, on this web site. [
Israel’s Glorious Future.]

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Israel becoming a Holy Nation is an exciting subject to study. See Ezekiel 36 –39 and these verses.
Jer. 31: 31 & 33, The time is coming, declares the LORD, when I will make a new Covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah… I will put a new law in their minds and I will write it on their hearts. I will be their God and they will be My People… they will all know Me from the least of them to the greatest.”

Romans 11: 12, For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile – the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on Him, for, ‘everyone who calls on the Name of the Lord will be saved.’ “

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The Tanakh has several Scriptures describing when Israel will call on the Lord in repentance and faith. There is no other way to call!
Zechariah12: 9 & 10, On that day I will set out to destroy all the nations, [as in the Magog Army at a specific Endtime,] that attack Israel. And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, a spirit of grace and supplication. They will look *to Me, the One they have pierced, and they will mourn for Him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for Him as one grieves for a firstborn son.” (Or *‘look on’ ~ in trust!)
When they do, a fountain of forgiveness will open for them, as all Scripture teaches!

Zech.13: 1, On that day a fountain will be opened to the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, to cleanse them from sin and impurity.”
[We believe references to the ‘remnant’ can include ALL ‘End-Time’ Jews, (maybe 20Mln, as compared with the 350 Min Arab members) of the descendants of Ishmael, Israel is a ‘remnant’ but appointed to great blessings as the prophets wrote!]

Our conclusion is that God will bring Israel to become Believers in Yeshua as Saviour and Messiah by a Spiritual miracle here - on Earth before the Return of Yeshua.

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3. God only has ONE Family. As we have said we do not believe God will take one part of His ‘Body’/Bride at Yeshua’s Coming, leaving Jews behind.

ALL must be treated the same, when it comes to being in God’s Royal spiritual family. This is part of Paul’s argument in his great letter to the Roman Christians with Jews who were not sure about including Jewish Believers! He builds his argument this way.
 

Romans 2:11, God does not show favouritism. ALL who sin…will be punished.”
Romans 3: 22, “This righteousness from God comes through faith in Yeshua/Jesus Messiah to ALL who believe. There is no difference, for ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Messiah Yeshua/Jesus.”

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Then Paul uses amazing arguments and descriptions in other Scriptures to describe Israel’s relationship with God at that time, plus their oneness with all Believers!

 
Ephesians 2: 18 –22. For through Him, [Yeshua/ Jesus] we both have access to the Father by One Spirit. Consequently, you [Gentiles] are no longer foreigners and aliens, but fellow-citizens with God’s [Jewish] People and members of God’s Household, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Messiah Jesus, Himself as the chief cornerstone. In Him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a Holy Temple in the LORD. And in Him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by His Spirit.”

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Then we have the picture of the ‘oneness’ in the “Olive tree”.
Romans 11: 17 – 23. If the root, [of God’s ‘olive tree’] is holy, so are the branches. If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, [Gentiles] though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others, [the Jewish ones]… do not boast over those branches. They were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand [stay] by faith.” Vs. 23, “If they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.”

God will not ‘divide up’ His special, trusting ‘Olive Tree People’!

Conclusions: God will not separate Believers at a time of ‘secret’ – or first part ‘Coming’; therefore all Believers will be on Earth during the Tribulation.

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4. We firmly believe that God will have a way for God to make Israel a GREAT BLESSING on the Earth helping to bring in a great End time harvest!

This will be because God has willed for ALL Israel to be saved”, before His Coming.
Romans chapters 9 - 11 says this,
but we can’t retype the whole of Romans 9 –11.
(But please re-read it for yourself!)
This special experience will open the door for them to be a blessing on the Earth, as a holy nation – which has always been God’s Plan for them. There are other Scriptures too! See Joel 2: 28 - 32.
Also, Isaiah 27: 2 Sing about a fruitful vineyard: I the LORD watch over it; I water it continually. I guard it day and night so that no-one may harm it.” Verse 6; “In days to come, Jacob will take root, Isra’el will bud and blossom and fill the world with fruit!”
Romans 11: 12, How much greater riches will their fullness, [spiritually] bring!
Verse 15: If their rejection is the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be, but LIFE from the dead.”
Isaiah 19: 24, In that Day, Israel… will be a blessing on the Earth.”

a) This will be by becoming the Light of God during the time of dark Tribulation!
Think about Isaiah 60: 1-3, which is especially to Israel!
Arise! Shine! For your Light has come, and the glory of the LORD rises upon you.
 [But] see darkness covers the Earth and thick darkness is over the peoples,
- but the LORD rises upon you, and His glory appears over you!
This cannot
be during the Millennial reign of Messiah Yeshua as King on Earth when the whole world will be alight with the joy and life of his Presence! So this is one reason we believe Israel will be a light to the nations during the dark time of the Tribulation.

Jeremiah 49:8, This is what the LORD says, ‘In the time of My favour I will answer you and in the day of salvation I will help you. I will make keep you and make you to be a Covenant for the peoples… to say to the captives [of sin] ‘Come out’ and to those in darkness, ‘be free’.”
Again this cannot be after Yeshua/Jesus’ Coming, because there will be no ‘captives’ or ‘darkness’ when He is King.

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b) This will bring great glory to God in this world like it is! The Nations are blessed.
This is one reason why we believe God will bring the Jews to Himself before the Second Coming. Later, during Jesus Earthly reign, we Believers will all be one, totally.
Ezekiel 36:23, I will show the holiness of My great Name which has been profaned among the nations… Then the nations will know that I am the LORD, declares the Sovereign LORD, when I show Myself holy through you [Israel] before their eyes.”
This is in this world like it is now, though many people cannot imagine God could do this!
Therefore it seems God will restore Israel in every way, so making them the blessing He always wanted them to be! Please see Isaiah 27: 2 - 6, about Israel filling the Earth with fruit!

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FINALLY, WE RETURN TO OUR OFFER TO SEEK TO SHOW FROM SCRIPTURE:
That a ‘Post-tribulation Coming of our Lord Jesus Messiah/ Yeshua ha Meshiach/ Isa Maseeh to Earth is worth thinking seriously about.


Just to summarise, we believe:
a) That Gentile Christians will be asked to go through a time of testing and refining in the period of time called ‘the Tribulation’. A very serious, even horrifying time, but not without the Presence and power of the Spirit of God. Very many brave and faithful Christians are already facing severe persecution in most of the world.

b) Israel, as a nation will have accepted Yeshua as Saviour and Messiah and in a ‘window of opportunity’ will be a great blessing on the Earth, before being forced to return to a free and enlarged Holy Land. It is there, during the Tribulation that they will be kept safe and worship at a rebuilt Temple demonstrating the real meaning of its sacrificial and meaningful worship systems.
They will welcome true Christian Gentile Believers! See Zechariah 8:23, noting: "God is with you"
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c) Israel may well send out 144,000 ‘social workers’ to feed, clothe and visit imprisoned Gentile Christians, who are the ‘brothers of Yeshua’. In Rev. 7: they are simply called "Servants"...

d) Some Gentile Believers will be given refuge in Israel when they ask, as in Zechariah 8: 23, Let us go with you [to Israel], because we have heard that God id with you." Amazing!
So there are warnings, along with encouragements. For many, Israel will be an 'Ark' of safety.

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HOWEVER WE WOULD LIKE TO STRESS – IT IS NOT ABOUT BEING ‘RIGHT’
IN OUR THEOLOGICAL THINKING THAT MATTERS,
IT IS KNOWING AND LOVING AND SERVING GOD RIGHT NOW,
LIVING HOLY LIVES AS HE GIVES US GRACE…

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